Monday, October 8, 2007
Thoughts on Immigration Forum
Well, the ND Forum just ended, and now is the chance for those in my classes to share their views. So, who was the best speaker and why? What was the most insightful comment or moment? Or maybe you just want to share your ideas on some of the issues raised. The floor is yours....
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I was really disappointed because they stayed on the surface of things and were completely unproductive. It took 1 hour and 37 minutes for anyone to say something about the idea of improving the lives where people come from, which would hopefully keep them from wanting or needing to break the law in the first place, and when that was brought up it wasn't even discussed.
I was also left with a question: Okay, everyone wants to come up with a "comprehensive" solution to the immigration problem, and they seem to have a "little by little isn't enough" attitude; but wouldn't little by little be better than the NOTHING that's getting done now?
the forum was really interesting. I agree with Devons comment when they really didnt come up with anything to solve the issue. I felt they could of gone into the answers a little bit more.
The govenor from AZ did make some really good points about immigration.
that was my comment from above
chantel
I would have to say that the best speaker was Govenor Napolitano. She stated "build me a 15 foot wall and I will show you a 16 foot ladder" really hit me. Its obvious something needs to be done and building a wall is not the solution to immigration.
I also feel that as americans we should help make the situation better in those countries where the majority of undocumented immigrants are coming from.
-Hodge
I believe that the forum should have been much better. I found it rather boring. Nothing intelligent was really said. Especially some of the things Mayor Barletta had to say. His arguement for the illegal immigration laws he supports are baseless and inhuman. There are many jobs in this country that would not be getting done if it were not for illegal immigrants. And he is hurting his own town from the research I did. So guess that just goes to show what a great mayor he is.
I thought that the immigration forum was really cool. I learned a lot. One of the most interesting things I learned was that there are 12 million people living illegally here. Also, I thought it was pretty interesting when the Notre Dame student from Arizona told us about when he was trying to get his license, and he couldn't because two people stole his identity.
All anybody talks about are the hard-working, good illegal immigrants coming to this country that deserve our help. What about the other side like the violent and brutal murderer's, rapist, child molesters, and wife beaters that just as easily cross those borders? There are those who embrace American culture and there are those who maintain all aspects of their native culture. I'm not talking language folks! I am talking about women's rights and how they barely exist in certain culture's.Yeah, every race commits crime, but illegal immigrant crime rates can't even accurately be determined because they simply flee back to Mexico and their crimes get put in the cold case files. Napolitano plays both sides of the immigration debate. Check the history of her voting and veto's and you will see that. I never had an opinion on illegal immigration until I moved to Phoenix. Tell me how you would feel if two people were gunned down by illegals, so close to you that their blood was on your face? I am traumatized for life and they are free to run around with the MS-13's.That's the largest growing multi-national gang that the DEA has documented in at least 36 US states.Look it up! I know that there are law abiding, good illegal immigrants, but those are not the only immigrants that the US citizens want to provide amnesty for. I would love to share with everyone my experiences while living in AZ. Maybe then you can understand why my key issue stands with the violent criminals that stroll pass the border and commit crimes here. That must be why I support drastic action like that of Barletta over nothing like that of our national government. When is somebody going to address this issue or do we simply not care? Wow! That felt good!
Hooray for Meredith! It's hard to admit around people like Griff and Elliott that I'm on the fence about immigration. I completely agree that the good, hard-working people are needed here and deserve to live and work here, but the reality is that many of the people who come here illegally are NOT actually here for legitimate reasons and come from a culture of a delicate balance between power and corruption in which anything can be bought. The reason the forum was so disappointing was two fold: one, that issues and realities like these weren't addressed, and two that the anti-immigration viewpoint was misrepresented and unfairly twisted. It was overall just a disappointment. I'd have liked to see the conflict between humanitarianism and safety (national or otherwise) addressed. I'd have also liked them to go into more depth about how important it is for us to send help to these countries, to try to help solve the problems of misused power and corruption.
The Immigration Forum was very interesting, yet extremely predictable. While doing my internship in Washington, D.C. in Senator Bayh's office, I worked very close with the proposed Immigration Bill. The forum was typical of this very complex issue. Everyone agrees something must be done and we have a huge problem. However, as a result of our current political landscape, we cannot meet in the middle to solve a problem that must be solved. It will take a lot less talk and a lot more action by our government to solve this problem. I do not see a comprehensive solution coming anytime until our political dialouge becomes unifying instead of dividing.
- Jared Sawyer
I thought the forum was well organized and interesting, yet rather bland and dry at times. I also feel like most of the speakers skimmed over the harsh issues and talked about the "winnable" issues. There are more than 12 million people living in the united States illegaly. I am on the fence with the issue of immigration. I look at all the bad problems, such as the drug trafficers and rapists and killers, that come into this country and I definitely am against it. But, then I look at my morals and values of being a strong Christian woman and I am appalled that people could let other families live as they do in countries such as mexico and ghana. I have started to do some more research about the issues with immigration and will forward any good articles to you, Griff. The one thing I do stand firmly upon are my values as a catholic to help the sick and the poor, and I suppose if that means immigrants, then that means immigrants. Also, I agree with Jared, unless people stop talking and start acting, there will be no resolution to this growing "problem."
-Elitia
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