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Ave Crux, Spes Unica! This is the Congregation of Holy Cross motto and means, "Hail the Cross, our only hope."
So why this blog? Well, those of us who are teachers and learners know that the great ideas we encounter together sometimes are just more than one classroom discussion can handle, so this is a place to continue the search for truth and meaning.
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- MIKE GRIFFIN
- Catherine and Mike Griffin are the proud parents of Benedict John and his little sibling on the way.
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13 comments:
Angela says:Both of you presented the side that you took in a clear way, and so it is very easy to see that except in a very small way, with exceptions, could these two extremely visions of life ever merge, maybe just with some political alliances, at times.
I think that Christianity can incorporate postmodern ideas and beliefs. As Christians, we believe in certain things that are true to our religion and always have been. There are things that to us are undeniable truths like Jesus dying on the cross for our sins. However, this does not mean we can not be open to other ideas and religions. Hinduism is right for some people because that is what they have always believed in and are raised to believe. Everyone has their own right to believe in whatever they want to.
Christianity involves adopting certain beliefs and following certain rules that correspond to God's preferences.
Postmodern thought involves cultivating one's own beliefs and following self-imposed rules that correspond to one's own preferences.
Are these two compatible? Nope.
A "good Christian" cannot be a postmodern, and vice versa.
However, a "good person" can be both a postmodern and a Christian, blending the aspects of each in a way that feels both moral and true to himself. Luke probably wouldn't consdier this a "true" Christian, but who cares?? If a person can bring just as much good into the world as a staunch, by-the-book Christian, then who really cares if he makes up some of his own self-fulfilling rules along the way? Who? God?? I think He's got bigger things to worry about.
I definitely agree with Olivia in that we, as Christians, can understand other religions. That is why postmodernism is so great.
Luke Bruner and I have different interpretations of Postmodernism. He states that Catholicism and Postmodernism are on the same level. I disagree to the fullest. I am baffled by how Postmodernism is viewed as a religion. It really is a set of guidelines for a religion. A person could not be a Catholic and a Postmodern if they were a true Postmodern, as I think Luke was trying to say. That is easy to comment on because nobody has Postmodernism as their religion. It simply is the description of how we categorize the real religions. It seemed to me that Luke was trying so hard to make Postmodern something that it is not just so that he could disprove it. It is impossible to prove that Postmodernism, in its pure form, does not promote peace.
With that being said, I do have a problem with Postmodernism. It divides everybody in to sub groups with a mutual respect among everyone. Then each person has to objectively agree to everything in that group. However, I believe that there still can be diversity among the sub groups based on practicality. This is frowned upon by Postmodernism.
In response to Luke's blog, I do not see PostModernism as a religion at all. I see it as a tool to help us understand confusing concepts. I feel a person can be both a Christian and a PostModern. I feel Postmodernism can help a person become a better Christian. Postmodernism helps the Christian to become more open and accepting of others' beliefs. We have an obligation to accept the beliefs of a Hindu or a Jew as just as believable as our beliefs. Who are we to say another group's beliefs are false? Jesus died on the cross for our salvation. We have no way of proving that to be 100% correct. It's the whole basis of religion: FAITH. We will never know the entire truth until we get to Heaven.
I agree with harrison, in that I do not look as postmodernism as a religion. People of all religions can be postmodernist thinkers. I know Mr. Griffin is a postmodern thinker and he is a devoted Catholic. Does this mean he has two religions? Postmodernism may have the characteristics of a religion, but just because it has the characteristics it does not make it so.
My one objection to postmodernism occurs when they say that agreements on issues are based on the community you are in. As far as I can see, people in the same ‘community’ still gripe about what should be moral and what should not be. Americans as a community will never come to an agreement on the morality of abortion, the Catholic community can’t always come to a conclusion on the justice of war, and even family members have disputes when it comes to ethics. While many people appreciate postmodernism for its openness, and the fact that it allows you to form your own opinions based on educated questioning of your own beliefs, an entire postmodernist culture may feel to willing to make their own decisions. An ethical system with more a concrete way to decide on issues, such as Kant, is more realistic on a larger scale.
i also do not consider postmdernism a religion. it is a way to live your life and i am fine with people who choose that path. i also believe people can accept both being Catholic and a postmodern. postmodernism helps bring everything into perspective. Not enough people understand that we need to look at everything around us, and realize that everything we do affects the world around us in some way. Postmodernism also tells you in order for you to truly believe in something, you have to question it in its entirety.
Postmodernism is not a religion. It is a philosophy that helps us answer life's most crucial questions. Postmodernism and Christianity can be compatible as long as we do not use postmodernism as a religion.
I too do not see postmodernism as a religion but more of an add-on to an already standing religion. Even at this, there are are aspects of postmodernism that I cannot see eye-to-eye. I like that it sees other community's values and views as valid for their community, which eliminates others being condescending. I do not agree with the idea that all members of a community have to agree on their set principles. Not everyone thinks alike, so there are going to be some disagreements within groups about sertain issues, and that's just a fact of life.
I think that Christianity is compatible with postmodernism in at least one way. It seems that post modernism is a very accepting and open-minded world view. Christianity also teaches that we should respect the opinions, beliefs, etc, of others. My problem with postmodernism is that it seems to go too far in its open-mindedness to the point where there is little difference between it and relativism.
There is a slight problem with Christianity and Post-modernism. It comes in the form of baptism, where one is allowed into the family of God and accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior. However, if you are not baptized and do not accept Jesus as the son of God, you are SOL'ed. How can we explain this?
Postmodernism can go with about any religion. Postmodernism, like existentialism, is not in fact a religion but a way of thinking. It is more of a philosophy about morality and cultures.
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